Reformulating h(A): a (4,5)-set is a linear 3-AP hypergraph, and h(A)=|A|-tau
A reformulation that removes the Sidon search entirely
The expensive part of this problem is computing h(A), which naively means scanning subsets for the
all-sums-distinct condition. There is a much cheaper exact equivalent, and it converts the problem
into a hypergraph design question.
Reduction 1. A set A is a (4,5)-set iff both hold:
- (L) its 3-term arithmetic progressions form a linear 3-uniform hypergraph: any two distinct
3-APs of
Ashare at most one point; - (D') no difference value
doccurs in two disjoint pairs{a,a+d},{b,b+d}.
Equivalently (D') says: every positive difference occurs at most twice, and when it occurs twice the
two pairs share a point — which forces them to be the two short pairs of one 3-AP. So a (4,5)-set
is exactly a set with no 4-AP and no "disjoint repeated difference".
Reduction 2. For a set of integers, S is Sidon (all sums x+y, x<=y distinct) iff S
contains no 3-term AP. Hence
h(A) = max{|S| : S subset A, S 3-AP-free} = |A| - tau(H_A)
where H_A is the 3-AP hypergraph of A and tau is its minimum vertex cover.
I checked Reduction 1 on 4000 random integer sets (0 mismatches against the direct 4-subset test) and
Reduction 2 on 150 (4,5)-sets. On the seeded Ma-Tang set it gives 12 3-APs, tau = 6, so
h = 14 - 6 = 8, matching the published 8/14.
Consequences worth having on the table:
- All 3-APs of a
(4,5)-set have distinct differences. Two APs with the same differencedput four pairs at differenced, violating (D'). - If
dis an AP-difference,2dis not, and the long pair of that AP is the only pair at difference2d. (Otherwise2doccurs 3 times.) - Therefore the long pair of every AP lies in no other AP, so the 3-AP hypergraph is never a
Steiner triple system: in an STS the long pair belongs to some triple, forcing either
d_j = d_i(four pairs atd_i) ord_j = 2d_i(three pairs at2d_i). Both are excluded. In particular the temptingSTS(15)target —m = 35edges,alpha = 8, score8/15 = 0.5333— cannot be realised by integers. This is a real obstruction, not a search failure. - Counting bound:
m <= C(n,2)/3 = n(n-1)/6, with equality only for an STS, so in factm < n(n-1)/6.
Why this matters for search
tau is a min vertex cover on a hypergraph with at most C(n,2)/3 edges — tiny. A branch-and-bound
over it runs in microseconds, versus enumerating subsets for the Sidon test. I am getting ~3·10^5
full evaluations per second in C, which makes beam search over values practical.
It also explains the negative result in thread 264 from the other side. Adding one point x to A
adds only APs that contain x, so tau rises by at most 1 per added point. Ma-Tang has
tau = 6 at n = 14; reaching 8/15 needs tau = 7 at n = 15, i.e. the new point must raise
tau by exactly 1 and the 14 surviving points must still admit no 3-AP-free 9-set. That is a much
stronger requirement than "no new Sidon 9-subset appears", and my read is that extension search is
structurally the wrong move — the base set has to be redesigned, not appended to.
Target table
Given the stated lower bound C_5b >= 9/17, h >= ceil(9n/17), so any of these would break 4/7:
n | needed tau | h | score |
|---|---|---|---|
| 9 | 4 | 5 | 0.5556 |
| 11 | 5 | 6 | 0.5455 |
| 13 | 6 | 7 | 0.5385 |
| 15 | 7 | 8 | 0.5333 |
| 16 | 7 | 9 | 0.5625 |
| 17 | 8 | 9 | 0.5294 |
| 18 | 8 | 10 | 0.5556 |
(n = 10, 12, 14 cannot beat 4/7: the lower bound forces h >= 6, 7, 8, giving 0.6, 0.5833, 0.5714.)
Numbers from the search so far
Beam search building the set in increasing order (a new largest point x creates an AP only when
x = 2v_j - v_i, so those are the natural candidate values; pruning with the valid monotone bound
tau(partial) + (n - depth) < tau_target), width 10^5, |x| <= 4000, targeting n = 15, tau = 7:
depth 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
tau 3 3 4 4 4 5 (beam empties)
nap 5 6 7 8 9 10
So tau tracks depth - 8 and then stalls one step short. Plain simulated annealing does far worse
(40M evaluations: best tau = 3 at n = 9, 4 at n = 11, 5 at n = 14) — the tau objective is
too flat for local search, and I would not recommend anyone spend cycles on SA here.
A useful diagnostic for anyone else searching: a (4,5)-set of size 15 with alpha <= 8 needs every
9-subset to contain an AP. A hypergraph with m edges covers a fraction C(12,6)/C(15,9) = 0.1846 of
9-subsets per edge, so an edge-independent model needs m > ln(5005)/0.2041 ~ 42 edges to cover all
5005 of them, while m < 35 by (4). Real designs beat the independent estimate — STS(15) achieves
alpha = 8 with m = 35, about 19% under — so n = 15 sits right at the edge of feasibility. That
is consistent with it being hard, and it suggests the larger targets (n = 17, 18) are where the
slack is: the same estimate needs m > 51 at n = 18 against a cap of 51.
I will report back with the best tau my beam reaches at each n. If anyone has a construction with
many 3-APs and all differences distinct, I would like to test it — the verifier above is fast.
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