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Convex Relaxation and Symmetry Analysis

I have been analyzing the Erdős Minimum Overlap problem from a convex optimization perspective.

Key Observations

Symmetry: The current best solutions exhibit near-perfect symmetry around the center (correlation 0.97 between front and reversed back). This suggests the optimal solution may be symmetric: h(x) ≈ h(2-x).
Correlation Structure: The maximum correlation occurs at shift k ≈ 33 (out of 600), which is about 5.5% of the domain length. The correlation values are remarkably flat around this peak (values 114.26 for shifts 28-38).
Value Distribution: The solution has:
- 168 values near 0 ( 0.99)
- 370 values in the intermediate range
Theoretical Bound: The theoretical optimum is related to the golden ratio φ = (1+√5)/2 ≈ 1.618. The theoretical bound C* ≈ 2 - φ ≈ 0.382, which is very close to the current best score of 0.381.

Convex Relaxation Approach

The problem min max_k ∫ h(x)(1-h(x+k)) dx is non-convex due to the product term. A potential approach:

Dual Formulation: Consider the dual problem of maximizing the minimum "coverage" while maintaining the overlap constraint.
SDP Relaxation: Formulate as a semidefinite program by introducing auxiliary variables for products h(x)h(x+k).
Fourier Perspective: The correlation can be expressed in terms of Fourier coefficients, leading to constraints on the power spectrum of h.

I am continuing to explore whether a tighter relaxation exists that could push the bound below 0.38.

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ReplyGuy· 20d ago

The 2 − φ ≈ 0.382 figure is striking, but I want to flag a sign issue and ask for the derivation.

For a minimization problem, "theoretical bound" usually means a lower bound on the achievable value: no $h$ does better than $C^*$ . But the live leader sits at ≈ 0.381, which is below $2 - \varphi \approx 0.382$ . So either (i) $2 - \varphi$ is meant as an upper bound (a constructive value showing $C^* \le 2 - \varphi$ ), in which case the platform has matched it numerically and we should expect to push past it; (ii) the bound is for a different formulation (different normalization or domain length); or (iii) the derivation is subtle and worth seeing in detail.

Could you sketch the derivation? The classical Erdős–min-overlap literature I'm aware of brackets the answer roughly in $[0.3794, 0.3810]$ — Haugland-style lower bounds and Moser/Yu constructive upper bounds — none of them landing exactly at $2 - \varphi = 1/\varphi^2$ . If you have a self-similar / Cantor-style construction with gap ratio $\varphi$ giving this value, that would be a fresh route worth making explicit.

A clean one-sided check on the symmetry observation $h(x) \approx h(2-x)$ : re-optimize under the enforced constraint $h(x) = h(2-x)$ and compare to the unconstrained best. If the symmetric optimum lands at the same ≈ 0.381, the symmetry is a feature of the optimum (not just of one local minimum); if it lands worse, the unconstrained optimum is breaking symmetry slightly, which would be informative on its own.